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Q0 Totally Gratuitous

Q: That's for you to find
A: Gwen Lenker posted at 12 Aug 2002 14:14:11 GMT

It has already been mentioned in the thread named "Question on ordered lists," but, in case you missed it, Totally Gratuitous Question Zero may be found at:

http://www.totally-official.com/SDCMMII/ [archive copy with explanation of the answers]

Looks like fun.

Then Ben Zimmer posted at 14 Aug 2002 16:56:19 -0700 (=23:56:19 GMT)

The answer is squeamish ossifrage

Then Gwen Lenker posted at 15 Aug 2002 02:47:40 GMT

Kit and kaboodle

(The answers to the crossword puzzle may be seen in schematic format at:
http://www.totally-official.com/xword_answer.htm [archive copy])

Status: One Katahdin so far (to Gwen) for finding the question. Further sheep to be won...

Especially now that it is Herdwick-enabled

Then a Touabire + 37 Herdwicks to Ben Zimmer

And a Touabire + 38 Herdwicks to Gwen Lenker

 

Q1 Grandpa's Grandson

Q: You will have heard of my grandfather. His myth is known throughout the world. My myth is more localized. After leaving the place of my birth, I travelled for many years until I came to a hill by a river. The hill boasted a forest of magnificent pine trees. I settled there and founded a city. Settlers came and used these pine trees to build walls and a fortress within these walls. The fortress was given a name which some believe comes from a word meaning "hard", but others believe its name comes from words meaning "pine forest". All agree that the name given to the oldest tower of this fortress (frequently photographed by tourists) comes from a ancient word meaning "known only to the initiated". The wooden walls stood for several centuries and were replaced with white stone, and finally brick.

I gave my name to this city. It has produced composers, artists, and novelists. One citizen of legend even travelled to the fabled Camelot to joust with the Arthurian knights. Sadly however, his name was mistranslated to a colour, rather than the correct meaning of "beautiful".

In time, I married a local woman who bore a son and daughter. Their names were combined and given as an eponym to a river in this region.

Today, the city I founded is a vibrant metropolis with an airport and tube system, and my citizens are fiercely proud of the heritage I bestowed upon them. Please provide [1] the name of my grandfather; and [2] the name of the fortress. Please include a rationale for your answer.

Note that if the answer to the next question is an odd number, then the answer to question 53 can be found in a handbook.

A: Mike Connally posted on 10 Aug 2002 16:00:06 +0100

Vsevolod I Grand Prince of Kiev was the grandfather of Yuri Dolgoruky who founded Moscow. But although his myth is certainly known to Google, it wasn't to me.

I suspect the better-known grandfather was Yuri's mother Gythe's father, Harold II of England, who got one in the eye at Hastings.

>My myth is more localized.  After leaving
> the place of my birth, I travelled  for many years until I came
> to a hill by a river.  The hill boasted a forest  of magnificent pine
> trees.  I settled there and founded a city.  Settlers came
> and used these pine trees to build walls and a fortress within
> these walls.  The  fortress was given a name which some believe
> comes from a word meaning "hard",  but others believe its name
> comes from words meaning "pine forest".  All agree  that the name
> given to the oldest tower of this fortress (frequently photographed
> by tourists) comes from a ancient word meaning "known only to the
> initiated".   The wooden walls stood for several centuries and were
> replaced with white stone,  and finally brick.

Definitely the Kremlin. 'Kreml' meaning 'hard', it was originally built of wood, then white stone, finally red brick. (Some white stone buildings and foundations remain.)

> I gave my name to this city.  It has produced composers,
> artists, and novelists.   One citizen of legend even travelled
> to the fabled Camelot to joust with the  Arthurian knights.
> Sadly however, his name was mistranslated to a colour,
> rather than the correct meaning of "beautiful".

From which comes 'Red Square', derived from the Russian word 'krasnyj' which means 'beautiful', but sounds like the word for 'red'.

> In time, I married a local woman who bore a son and daughter.
> Their names  were combined and given as an eponym to a river
> in this region.
>
> Today, the city I founded is a vibrant metropolis with an airport
> and tube system,  and my citizens are fiercely proud of the heritage
>  I bestowed upon them.  Please  provide [1] the name of my
> grandfather; and [2] the name of the fortress.  Please include
> a rationale for your answer.

[1] Harold II of England
[2] Kremlin

Rationale: See above.

Demurrer posted: Sadly, per the cited fragment above, we cannot provide a full "Thank You" because we're unable to locate a city named "Yuri" that has a Kremlin in it, so it couldn't be his grandfather whose name we're seeking.

Whereupon Mike Connaly posted at 10 Aug 2002 21:27:03 +0100

OK, Googling gives this:

Moscow's origins have long been shrouded in the mystery of time, but there are many stories linked with it. One legend has it that Moscow was founded by Noah's grandson, Tsar Mosokh. On the site of a little hill, which is now known as Shvivaya Gorka, he founded 'Gradets Maly', [little town] and settled down there. Mosokh's wife was called Kva, and they had a son and daughter called Ya and Vuza. These names were combined into the words Moskva and Yauza, the latter being the name of Moscow's second largest river.

Ref: http://www.rcscmalta.org/newsletter/feb2002.html

Interesting that Moscow had TWO founders with famous grandfathers.

Status:

The intial Katahdin awarded for the first part of the answer has now been upgraded to a full Cormo.

Q2 Coloured Balls

Q: When was the use of a white football officially sanctioned for the game of "Gridiron Football"?

If the answer to question 70 is a type of fowl, then it's a safe bet that the fellow in question 68 would know the names of the two children in question 1, otherwise the handbook is not on the web someplace.

A: Evan Kirshenbaum posted at 09 Aug 2002 23:37:04 -0700

Officially? November 19, 1951. But it was apparently used as early as 1930. Where? Temple University.

Support?

http://www.camelotintl.com/365_days/november.html
http://academic.uofs.edu/department/spcoll/football.html

Q3 Name of sport

Q: In Bengali "bhanj" means to bend or fold .

This in turn is derived from the same word in Sanskrit where it means to break or shatter . What sport derives its name ultimately from this word?

A: Evan Kirshenbaum posted at 09 Aug 2002 23:44:58 -0700

The easy guess would be bungee jumping, but MW only says "origin unknown".

Q4 Famous little girl

Q: Can you name the little Hampshire girl who's famous for absolutely nothing? Some of the questions in this year's SDC refer to television theme songs.
A: Paul Draper posted on 10 Aug 2002 08:45:02 +0000

Sweet Fanny Adams?

See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages/alton.htm

Q5 "Teenager" of indeterminate age

Q: You wouldn't think so to look at me, but I'm 72 now. Or is it 88? 90?

And, oh, the places I've been. In a tunnel, for starters. One of those secret tunnels you might read about but never see, much less set foot in. It was sort of scary, but I wasn't really afraid. The experience actually provided an answer to something I'd been wondering about.

I've been to more places than a kid my age ought to have been. But I was a motherless child, you know... on my own a lot, going my own way more than most of my friends. Fortunately, I never had to worry about money. I even had a pretty snazzy car as a teenager.

Some folks in your family -- maybe even you -- have probably read about me, and feel they know me. Whether they "met" me years ago or now, I'd seem much the same. Some things don't change.

Who am I? Please note that if I am female, then the fellow in question 94 would probably not mention the first syllable of his name in an English pub. If I am male, then the SDC sanity checkers raised no objections to the next question.

A: Gwen Lenker posted at 10 Aug 2002 14:09:53 GMT

You are Nancy Drew.

See: http://www.mysterynet.com/nancydrew/grownups/nancy/ for more about this author.

Q5.1415927 The Outing of a Magistrate

Q: Social outrage resulted in the dismissal of this police magistrate shortly after a thinly veiled fictional character based upon him appeared in an episode of this serialised novel. Please identify him!
A: Don Aitken posted at 10 Aug 2002 16:02:35 +0100

I think the novel is one of Dickens', but I can't identify the magistrate.

Gwen Lenker posted at 10 Aug 2002 21:15:19 GMT

I believe the novel is Oliver Twist, and the fictional magistrate is Mr. Fang. His real-life counterpart was one Mr. Liang, whose given name I've yet been unable to determine.

Gwen Lenker followed this up at 10 Aug 2002 21:33:38 GMT

Whoops! Typo! It's Laing. Here's an update:

"Mr. Fang: Mr. Fang was modeled on the Hatton Garden magistrate, Allan Stewart Laing, who was attacked by others than Dickens for his severity. He was dismissed from the bench in January 1838, but I have not found, in reports of his conduct on the bench in 1836, at any rate, much foundation for charges about the 'ferocities of Laing'. " http://austinhs.elpaso.k12.tx.us/users/jbaggett/olivertwist/installment5.html

Status: Don Aitkin awarded One Katahdin for putting the hounds on the scent, but Gwen gets the full Cormo

Q6 From the Strange Etymologies Department

Q: Local tradition has it that this elected official was strolling along the coast of England when he spied something that he had never seen before. What was it and what happened to it?
A: Jonathan Jordan posted at 10 Aug 2002 07:04:15 -0700

This isn't the Hartlepool monkey that was hanged after being mistaken for a French spy, is it?

See: http://www.totspad.freeserve.co.uk/monkey1.html

Q7 Rubadub redux!

Q: Please assume you are at a pub in Lancs and overhear the following conversational fragment:

"...I was having a nelson with me mates when this merchant come over and duckarsed my fag. He was gobsmacked when me mate pitched a wobbly and started to give him one in the newtons; but before he dropped a bollock, we told him he was taking the proverbial. For a wind-up, it was the mutt's..."

Please edit this fragment such that it is understandable to a non-native speaker of English.

A: Robert Bannister posted at 11 Aug 2002 07:51:31 +0800

I was drinking a Stella Artois with my friends when a person came over and wet the end of my cigarette. He was amazed when my friend became enraged and started to hit him in the teeth, but before he lost his temper, we told him he was the butt of a joke. As humour, it was the very best.

Q8 Digital Trains?

Q: Legend has it that in the 21st century, this 19th century monarch caused trains to stop running for a day. Please name this monarch and explain your reasoning. Any relevant URLs will help!
A: Sebastian Hew posted at 11 Aug 2002 09:27:26 +1000

The finger of Tsar Nicholas I, as legends have it, got in the way as he ruled a line from St. Petersburg to Moscow, introducing a bump, which was duly incorporated into the rail-way. Known as the Tsar's Finger, this curve in the line was straightened recently, occassioning the cessation of train movement for 24 hours.

See: http://millennium-debate.org/tel25oct019.htm and Rich Ragan provided the reference http://www.guardian.co.uk/russia/article/0,2763,579665,00.html

Q9 Norman town in Wales?

Q: Which Welsh town is named after a castle in Normandy?
A: mickwick posted at 10 Aug 2002 14:02:12 +0100

Montgomery, founded by Roger Montgomery (de Montgoméry), Earl of Shrewsbury.

Q10 Folded, spindled, and mutilated

Q: First I bound it, then I chopped it, and then, just to be sure, I chomped it, and finally, I blessed it. But I couldn't dump it, so I died. What was it?
A: Mike Connally posted at 10 Aug 2002 18:37:49 +0100

A perl script?

then Gwen Lenker posted at 12 Aug 2002 03:52:50 GMT

Someone once explained to me the significance of PERL scalars, but I lost track of the discussion once he used a buzzword. In fact, I nearly died...

Status: Close but no cigar yet. One Katahdin for Mike Connally. Then Gwen nailed it for the Cormo.

Q11 Emptor perditus est

Q: I set off from Londinium in the cold and damp province of Britannia, a mysterious island lying beyond Oceanus. Rather than go my normal route through Titsey, where I hear there is unrest, I set off south-southwest to Ewell. The following day I move on to Alfoldean, a long journey of 20 miles. The third day I am still heading south-southwest to rest the night in Hardham. Finally on the fourth day, instead of traveling to Noviomagvs Regnorvm to the southeast, I go east for 17 miles, whereupon I find a villa near the crossroads with the Titsey road. Where am I and what have I come to buy?
A: Jonathan Jordan posted at 10 Aug 2002 21:18:01 +0100

The villa seems to be at Hurstpierpoint, near Hassocks, with an associated tile-kiln (at least according to http://www.roman-britain.org/places/hassocks.htm So tiles seem to be the most likely answer to the second part.

E&OE: Philip Eden added:

Others have already provided answers, so let me console myself by pointing out an error in the question. Noviomagus is southwest of Hardham, not southeast. Can I have lamb chop please?

To which was retorted

For making a valiant effort to change the subject from sheep to food - One Katahdin!

Q12 How many times must a man...?

Q: This solid residue from wood that has been thoroughly burnt should be thrown into the air whilst sitting in a magic chair. How many times should it be thrown into the air? Please explain your answer.
A: Gwen Lenker posted at 10 Aug 2002 20:55:19 GMT

Three times.

Thrice toss these oaken ashes in the air.
Thrice sit thou mute in this inchanted chayre .
--Thomas Campion

http://www.luminarium.org/renlit/oakenash.htm

Q13 Furlongs per fortnight or pennies per cubic foot

Q: What is the greatest number of undamaged U. S. pennies that will fit into a cube with one foot sides? Please be precise, and explain your reasoning!

Note that somewhere on the Web is a site that dramatizes large numbers by showing how many U.S. pennies can fit into various volumes. Feel free to consult this site, but be prepared then to answer why the Doldrums TQM team rejected the information that might be found there.

Also do not be misled by Web sites that appear to have higher authority, such as that of the U.S. Mint, or by mere empirical data. Whatever dimensions you may find at various sites, for purposes of this question, you may take it that those of the subject pennies involve terms expressed as simple fractions of an inch.

(Some background research that caused the stipulation made in the previous paragraph may be found here )

A: Many contributors and a monumental thread resulted in the eventual posting of the Totally Official Answer which was 54725. However, it may very well be that the "real" answer is 54789, or even one of the other values which were cogently argued and explained.
Status: Herdwick enabled! - and One Katahdin so far for Michael J Hardy for the answer 56640. (Another panel member commented that this had "improved on the Totally-Official answer by 3 coins". This might lead you to conclude that the Totally Official answer was 56640 - 3 = 56637 which is bogus. In fact I don't know what flavour of arithmetic he was using. Not even within double digits...)

And then A Cormo to Rob Kennedy for getting the Totally Official Answer plus 24 Herdwicks.

And then One Katahdin to Richard Maurer for building the foundation on which other giants could stand, another Katahdin for possibly even getting the "right" answer, plus 24 Herdwicks

And then One Katahdin (his second on this question) to Michael Hardy for busting open some of the thought processes early on, which then sent the hounds baying in the right direction.

And then One Katahdin to Mark Brader for "The Brader Gambit"

Q14 What about Kaitlins?

Q: There are 3 Gerrys, 6 Martins, 5 Patricks, and only one Michelle.

How many Tonys?

A: Jonathan Jordan posted at 10 Aug 2002 23:34:47 +0100

Members of UK House of Commons with said first names.

I count 11 Tonys (Baldry, Banks, Blair, Clarke, Colman, Cunningham, Lloyd, McNulty, McWalter, Worthington and Wright), plus 2 Anthonys (and no Antonys).

See http://www.parliament.uk/commons/lib/alms.htm

The four names given (other than Tony) are the first names of the 4 Sinn Fein MPs, who don't take their seats.

Q15 Gifted Hand Mirror

Q: This publication targeted women, and the first subscribers received a shell-backed hand mirror as a gift. Please name this publication.
A: Don Aitken posted at 11 Aug 2002 00:55:31 +0100

The Daily Mirror.

Q16 Nay tany!

Q: Supply two more members for this series (to frustrate Googlers, they've all been anagrammed): theatre, ratheme, mipp, rehates, ...
A: mickwick posted at 11 Aug 2002 11:00:54 +0100

Just in case the Panel was expecting the next two in the sequence:

alether (7), veraho (8)...

Comment: The original Totally Official Answer was: "The traditional Cumbrian sheep-counting words are (starting from one)
yan, tyan, tethera, methera, pimp, sethera, lethera, overa...

So any anagrams of those last two are Totally Correct. However, the panel deemed the answer as provided to be correct, given the vagaries of Cumbrian spelling.

Q17 From the Departmental Branch of the Tautologies Divisional Unit

Q: What planet is this question from?
A: Richard Maurer posted at 18 Aug 2002 06:06:04 GMT

Dragaera

http://www.speakeasy.org/~mamandel/Cracks-and-Shards/seventeen.html#n17_in_D

Status: Herdwick-enabled ! Given the last panel-issued clue at Aug 16 11:59:46 +01 this computes out to 34 Herdwicks.

Q18 A pair of perps

Q: Here's a little clue:
Light hair and eyes of blue.
But also on the mark:
Hair and eyes both dark.

And here's a little more:
The year Nineteen Oh Four
But Snap! Here is a snare:
Which two are the pair?

A: Jerry posted at Aug 2002 15:04:04 +0800

Freddie & Flossie

After some demurral he followed up with:

Hmm. I did some research. I guess I will have to change my bid. I quote from CHAPTER I THE BOBBSEY TWINS AT HOME

"Nan was a tall and slender girl, with a dark face and red cheeks. Her eyes were a deep brown and so were the curls that clustered around her head.

Bert was indeed a twin, not only because he was the same age as Nan, but because he looked so very much like her. To be sure, he looked like a boy, while she looked like a girl, but he had the same dark complexion, the same brown eyes and hair, and his voice was very much the same, only stronger

Freddie and Flossie were just the opposite of their larger brother and sister. Each was short and stout, with a fair, round face, light-blue eyes and fluffy golden hair. Sometimes Papa Bobbsey called Flossie his little Fat Fairy, which always made her laugh. But Freddie didn't want to be called a fairy, so his papa called him the Fat Fireman, which pleased him very much, and made him rush around the house shouting: "Fire! fire! Clear the track for Number Two! Play away, boys, play away!" in a manner that seemed very lifelike."

I can only conclude that Nan and Bert were a better match in appearance as it was specifically pointed out. Freddie & Flossie were twins but not quite so well matched.

(My original post was based on a review that stated Freddie & Flossie were twins, while Nan & bert were older siblings. It seems a poor choice of source on my behalf)

Q19 Hybrid

Q: What hangs from the head of the mule?
Please explain your reasoning.
A: Gwen Lenker posted at 11 Aug 2002 05:07:19 GMT

Jewels and binoculars.
Because Dylan Said so, and Dylan rules. See http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/visions.html

Q20 Wee Rabbie looking over your shoulder

Q: What Robert Burns line, part of a well-known song, is connected with the word "kibitz"?
A: Laura Spira posted on 11 Aug 2002 08:16:19 +0100

Could it be from "Afton Water"? Thou stock-dove, whose echo resounds thro' the glen,
Ye wild whistling blackbirds in yon thorny den,
Thou green-crested lapwing, thy screaming forbear,
I charge you disturb not my slumbering fair.
Kibitz comes from "kiebitz" which means lapwing or peewit, according to NSOED, and since the lapwing is asked to forbear from screaming, and kibitzers are expected to keep quiet, it seems appropriate.

Q21 Nell's bane

Q: What is the name of the activity in which one or more person(s) takes hold of a flagpole rope, runs in a linear and/or circular direction, and tries to succesfully hurl themselves into the air for as long as possible?
A: Gwen Lenker posted at 11 Aug 2002 05:13:50 GMT

Luding.

See: http://www.textfiles.com/humor/ludeinfo.txt

Q22 Verily Strange Connection

Q: What is the connection among these professions: chandler, exterminator, and astronaut? Please note that if the answer to this question involves an aue civilian, then the answer to question 56 *also* involves an aue civilian, otherwise this clue is a red herring.
A: Truly Donovan posted at 11 Aug 2002 17:06:49 -0600

The connection is "Truly"
1. Chandler's Daughter by Truly Donovan
2. Southern USA pest extermination magnate Truly Nolan
3. Astronaut Robert Truly
Skitt posted on 11 Aug 2002 16:26:07 -0700 (in follow up to a posting by Truly)

Just in case accuracy counts -- Truly *Nolen* is the exterminator outfit,
and Richard Truly is the astronaut.
Status: Cormos awarded to both

Q23 Even More Strange Connection

Q: What is the connection among vanadium, cantharides, thigarek, and seven brass bracelets?
A: Gwen Lenker posted at 12 Aug 2002 01:29:50 GMT

Venus, Vanadis, and Oshun are analogous to the goddess Aphrodite. Cantharides is a supposed aphrodisiac. It looks like the evidence is stacking up for Aphrodite.

Q24 "A Close Shave" by I.M. Barber

Q: Dr. Alex Comfort wrote "The Joy of Sex". Martin Woodcock is a well-known bird artist. Find or coin the word that denotes such names or their bearers.
A: Gwen Lenker posted at 11 Aug 2002 14:22:10 GMT

Aptonym.

and followed it up in a second post with

Justification: The word is in common use.
see:

http://www.theatlantic.com/unbound/fugitives/mrmsapt.htm
http://educ.ahsl.arizona.edu/mla/doctor.htm
http://www.accesscable.net/~chapmand/aptonyms/
http://www.yakima-herald.com/cgi-bin/liveique.acgi$rec=12446?home
http://www.jellyroll.com/03/taj.html
It's even known in Italy.
http://www.alcatraz.it/redazione/news/show_news_p.php3?NewsID=1412
And there are plenty more where those came from.

Q25 Dinner Menu

Q: You're thinking about whether a) turrs, b) brewis, c) partridge, or d) bait would be a better choice for dinner. What are they and where are you?
A: Jonathan Jordan posted at 11 Aug 2002 18:05:42 +0100

You are in Newfoundland
Turrs - apparently also known as "murres" - they look like guillemots or
razorbills (types of auk)
http://www.cws-scf.ec.gc.ca/hww-fap/hww-fap.cfm?ID_species=29⟨=e
Brewis - hard bread
http://www.wordplay.com/cuisine/archive.html
Partridge - the birds I know as grouse and ptarmigan(different from the
partridge in Britain)
http://www.heritage.nf.ca/facts4.html
Bait - fresh caplin or herring
http://www.heritage.nf.ca/exploration/fpres_19th.html

Q26 Piney Waves?

Q: Who thought waves were like pine trees?
A: Sebastian Hew posted at 12 Aug 2002 11:37:46 +1000

Hilda Doolittle (a.k.a. H. D. Imagiste), in her poem Oread: Whirl up, sea
whirl your pointed pines,
splash your great pines
on our rocks,
hurl your green over us,
cover us with your pools of fir.

Q27 Automotive Treatment

Q: If you get your car slammed, what does "slam" stand for?
A: Sara Moffat Lorimer posted on 11 Aug 2002 22:13:48 -0400

Specifically, you've had the suspension lowered... and... uh...
modified? (This feels far too "posh.")

Then Ben Zimmer posted at 14 Aug 2002 15:18:40 -0700

I'm guessing that has something to do with the '64 Chevy Impala, a canonical "lowrider".

According to one lowrider website SLAM stands for "Slow Low And Mean".
http://members.tripod.com/~donny65/

Status: This question is re-opened both by Skoda Fiat and by popular consent of The Panel and has been Herdwick-Enabled for the real Totally Official Answer.

The elapsed time of 80 hrs for the correct answer gives 43 Herdwicks in addition to the Cormo for Ben Zimmer

Q28 Language Term!

Q: The following sentences have an unusual quality in common: I now pronounce you man and wife.
You have my blessing.
This court is now in session.
What single adjective indicates that quality?
A: Michael J Hardy posted on 11 Aug 2002 18:39:39 GMT

Performative.

Q29 A matter of classification

Q: Northern:hen::boreal:? (or "Northern is to hen as boreal is to what?")
A: Jonathan Jordan posted at 12 Aug 2002 16:43:14 +0100

If this is to do with "northern harrier" being an alternative name for "hen
harrier", then we should be looking for a species with two names, one of
which contains "boreal".
Now, the post by "toonice111" refers to the Boreal Owl.  Looking at the link
http://www.state.ak.us/local/akpages/FISH.GAME/notebook/bird/borealow.htm
this is Aegolius funereus.  In my bird-book, this is given as "Tengmalm's
Owl".
So I'll guess "Tengmalm's".

Q30 A Thin Disguise - Suspicion of Nefarious Intent?

Q: This fellow's toque and gloves made the sceptics [1] suspicious. Suspicious of what? Extra points for supplying the name and nationality of the fellow.

[1] "Skeptics" for the Americans. But you knew that.

A: Ben Zimmer posted at 13 Aug 2002 22:20:41 -0700

Make that the observation deck, not the roof of the WTC. And Penteado is still Brazilian. More at: http://www.snopes.com/rumors/crash.htm

Status: A clue supplied by a panel member reset the Herdwick clock and this question was answered very soon thereafter - thus no Herdwicks. (Otherwise there would have been 42!)

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